ADHD, Bipolar , or ODD Misdiagnosis and Crossover symptoms

by Andy's mom
(Minnesota)

We are in the process of having our child (7 years) evaluated for various disorders. He was just tested positive for sensory disorder (he seeks sensory stimuli) and that he is 2 years developmentally delayed.



The therapists and counselor is looking for one of the following: Bipolar, pervasive development, ADHD, and ODD. I know many of these disorders have cross over type symptoms. Are there any symptoms that would be seen in one and not the other?

In other words, what should I specifically be looking for to narrow the field of what we are looking for? I am mostly afraid of misdiagnosis and treatments for the wrong disorders.

His main symptoms are excess energy, anger management type issues (wants to "pay back" other children especially for making him angry) , unwillingness to cooperate in chores(etc.).

Answer

Hi Andy's mom

This is an extremely difficult question to answer. Understand that the actual criteria that currently exist for making these diagnoses are flawed, and most professionals are not trained to do this effectively. This is why you worry about misdiagnosis. If you want to know the specific criteria for each diagnosis, you can look up DSM criteria for ADHD, ODD and Bipolar Disorder.


I can talk with you about ADHD, ODD and Bipolar Disorder. PDD is not my area of expertise .


Bipolar Disorder is a mood disorder that until the late 90's was not thought to exist in children. We now know that it does exist in children,( although people will argue that it doesn't) and that it evolves and changes into a different looking illness over time. Bipolar Disorder in children does not look like Bipolar Disorder in adults.


In order to diagnosis Bipolar Disorder in a child, the current wisdom holds that they must exhibit distinct signs of mania, and signs of depression, both of which can be found detailed on my website. There are many symptoms that are associated with the two mood states mania and depression: irritability, anger, anxiety, energy fluctuation, and sleep disturbances to name a few.


Oppositional Defiant Disorder -like symptoms are often seen in a child with bipolar disorder, but they are part of the bipolar disorder not a separate diagnosis.

Bipolar children can have symptoms of oppositional behavior mostly during mood states, this does not make them ODD. To say this simply, a child with bipolar only exhibits oppositional behavior at certain times( i.e. when they are manic) , whereas a child with ODD always exhibits these behaviors. These behaviors are negative and hostile and consist of arguing, refusing to comply, blaming others, or behaving in a spiteful, angry, vindictive way.

Children who only have ODD behave in a negative and hostile way, but don't have the fluctuation in their symptoms that kids with bipolar have. These children also don’t have all the other symptoms of bipolar disorder.

Children who have ADHD, who do not have bipolar, do not exhibit swings between depression and mania. They exhibit problems with their attention and impulsivity. Children who have bipolar disorder but not ADHD may exhibit disruption in their attention and impulsivity when in certain mood states.Many children with bipolar disorder also have ADHD.

Children can have all of these diagnosis, or any combination therof. See how complicated this is?

The symptoms need to be studied in the context of a carefully constructed developmental history in order to get the most accurate diagnosis.

Family history is extremely important during this process. If there is bipolar disorder in the family, this is something I would be looking for as a possibility.

Misdiagnosis can be catastrophic because ADHD medications make bipolar children worse, and perhaps permanently worse. It is also a problem if you are treating a child with bipolar as if they have ODD, because treatment for a bipolar child consists of determining their mood states and modifying their environment based on that. ODD treatment is more behaviorally based, and will be unsuccessful with a Bipolar child.

I hope this has been helpful for you.

Sincerely

Kristen McClure


This Website is Not Intended to Give Medical Advice


The contents of this website such as text, graphics, and other material are for informational purposes only. The Content is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician, or other qualified mental health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of Content found on this Website.


If you have a medical emergency or 911 immediately.

Comments for ADHD, Bipolar , or ODD Misdiagnosis and Crossover symptoms

Average Rating starstarstarstarstar

Click here to add your own comments

Mar 23, 2016
Rating
starstarstarstarstar
Nice Post NEW
by: Anonymous

I enjoyed over read your blog post. Your blog have nice information, I got good ideas from this amazing blog. I am always searching like this type blog post. I hope I will see again http://www.footwear-eshop.com/

Nov 11, 2015
Rating
starstarstarstarstar
6 year old twin boys NEW
by: Anonymous

Now I know "normal" behaviour, that kids have, but my boys tend to ask same questions sometimes every 10 minutes of the day , like is today tues? On and on!!! Behaving badly not listening to me, literally like I do not exist they cannot stop to even notice what I'm saying . They are on ritilan 5mg 2~times daily. But it is not working then the doctor doesn't want to change it I've gotten letters from the school explaining the problems with their ADHD . I also have adhd, i'm 38 we have the same doctor , I told her none of us are benefiting from these medicines they need to be changed she insist they stay the same what do I do ?

Nov 02, 2015
Rating
starstarstarstarstar
Two months ago I was diagnosed NEW
by: Anonymous

Two months ago I was diagnosed with IBS and advised me to take complete rest and take reduce stress but the problem is am a freelance writer for write my essay paper and usually works for 9/10 hours day so how it’s possible to take complete rest I know doctor didn’t understand my financial problem but I hope you guy’s understand and give me any other option rather than rest

Aug 20, 2015
Rating
starstarstarstarstar

Coir matting

NEW
by: Anonymous

This is a very nice and informative post regarding the ADHD, Bipolar, OR ODD misdiagnosis and crossover symptoms. Thanks and Keep up the good work.
black coir matting

May 09, 2013
Rating
starstarstarstarstar
Check into sleep deprivation disorders too NEW
by: Anonymous

Also look into sleep deprivation because there have been studies done that prove not getting the proper amount of the proper type of sleep can cause symptoms of so many disorders ADHD/ODD, manic disorders, mood disorders, behavioral problems or if the child does have one of those disorders not getting enough of the proper type of sleep has been proven to make symptoms appear worse..

Click here to add your own comments

Join in and write your own page! It's easy to do. How? Simply click here to return to bipolar and adhd, adhd or bipolar?.

Check out our online facebook support community for parents of kids with mood disorder. 

Medical information obtained from our website is not intended as a substitute for professional care. If you have or suspect you have a problem, you should consult a healthcare provider.

Search my site with google custom search!

Schedule and appointment below. 

Schedule online now

Please subscribe to my newsletter for interesting information in your inbox related to mental health issues.

Enter Your E-mail Address
Enter Your First Name (optional)
Then

Don't worry — your e-mail address is totally secure.
I promise to use it only to send you Kristen Mcclure Newsletter .

Search this site for whatever you are looking for!